Welcome to the first spanko brunch for the month of October. Like many of you, I have been enjoying the new television series Outlander, based on Diana Gabaldon's novel about a woman who accidentally travels back in time and finds herself 200 years in the past. It's an unlikely premise to base a whole set of books on, but what I like most about the show is Claire's adaptation to the way women were treated then and now. For example, it was unheard of for a woman to be a lawyer back in 1750.
There is also a good deal of spanking in the first book. The most memorable spanking scene will be shown in an upcoming episode. (I described it in this post.) That brings us to today's discussion topic, which is not about the show in particular, but about how times have changed - if indeed they have.
Do you think attitudes toward spanking are changing? Has spanking become more acceptable in society? Does the younger generation have a more tolerant view of consensual spanking than their predecessors?
Please leave your opinion as a comment, and once everyone has had a chance to speak I will publish a summary of our discussion.
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It's hard to say. Our youngest adult generation grew up largely removed from non-consensual spanking, i.e. corporal punishment at school and at home. To the extent that adult spanko tendencies result from exposure to spanking as a child, it may be that there is less interest even if there is more tolerance. We polled readers on my blog recently about their ages, and I was shocked at the extent to which the over-50 crowd completely dominated the readership.
In the local kink community, I am seeing more young people. Under 30. I think they know something is missing and are seeking it. Most of them end up with older domimants who put discipline first. In some areas of our society erotic spanking is gaining acceptance.
Hermione, in days of yore, spankings were much more of the punishment kind. While in to-days world, it includes the sexual and erotic world.
It's hard to say, but certainly it's hard to be judgmental about a kink like spanking when gay marriage is legal in some states. I still think people don't want their friends and family to know. It's on the order of "swinging" or having a threesome with a neighbor.
I don't know about this. I'm 31, and though I like to think of myself as young, I don't know if I am for the purposes of this topic. I would like to think that people these days are growing more tolerant of things they don't agree with or understand, but that's not always true. I'm not sure it matters that much though, because marital spanking is private and doesn't necessarily need to be shared with everyone. And though it would be nice, if someone did find out, if they weren't horrified, but as we all know it's a complex thing. Some people just aren't going to get it.
I agree with the rest, I just don't know. My feeling is like today there was consensual spanking going on it just was not discussed. However today many of us would not mind if a few people knew, and I'm guessing some friends may have a clue that spanking is taking place.
archedone
Unless the Gallup organization does a poll, it is unlikely we will know the extent of spanking. It really is a private thing in that we will never know if neighbors or co-workers are into it. All of us have secrets. I suspect some of spanking, just little clues they inadvertently drop in conversation. It is fun to think about.
Baxter
I think the folks that are most uptight about spanking are spanko's.
I see two different historical currents pulling public opinion in opposite directions. There is a well-documented shift toward acceptance of alternative lifestyles. The hard earned advances of the GLBT community lift the kink community as well.
Simultaneously, there is a renewed focus upon eliminating domestic violence. This is an important and necessary initiative. However, some zealots refuse to believe that any woman could ever legitimately want to be spanked.
It remains to be seen how this cultural tug-of-war will play out.
Bonnie's comment is interesting, and it makes me wonder whether there the level of acceptance may also depend on the kind of spanking and the motivation behind it. I suspect that erotic spankings would not raise many eyebrows these days; not in an era where women of all ages seem to feel little embarrassment reading 50 Shades in public. But, I am not sure that the level of acceptance is nearly as high when it comes to F/m spanking or M/f disciplinary spankings. Regarding the latter, I suspect Bonnie is right and some would have concerns about domestic violence and, more generally, male dominance. And, I am not sure there is any real level of acceptance of F/m relationships.
Gosh, this is a tough one. First of all, I'm still pretty young, and, secondly, I've been caught up in the bubble that is virtual spanko land since (ahem) high school. We're all so accepting!
But after seeing the reaction to Jillian Keenan's recent article, I think we have a LONG way to go in accepting spanking as a common sexual fantasy vs. a common childhood punishment. People do NOT want to hear that their child may be fetishizing their punishment. It's better for them to pretend it doesn't exist as a sexual fantasy.
I thought about the domestic violence angle just as I hit the Publlish button. People do feel compelled recently to advise women that they should not accept a man "hitting" them. I always say, "It's not hitting, it's spanking!" LOL The fact that she CONSENTS is everything. She can call it off if she wants.
I've read that in our community more young people are seeking it which is a good thing but still think we have a long way to go.
Love,
Ronnie
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